Triune God-Triune Union: Three Factions Uniting Together
The Triune God Triune Union presented by David Barron of www.thethirdangelsmessage.com.
The Bible tells us that there are three factions uniting together, the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet; and that there is a worship issue coming to a head. Revelation 14 talks about those who will fear God, give Glory to Him, and worship Him; and there are those who will worship the beast, his image, and receive his mark in their forehead, or in their hand.
Why is it supposed that the final goal of our lives is to model the Trinity, how important will it be in this last crisis to understand this point, and to know who you are worshiping?
We’re about to get into that right now!
Triune God Triune Union
Triune God Triune UnionA threefold union coming together, what is the basis of this unity? The Trinity. We examine some of the recent calls for unity by leaders such as Pope Francis, Kenneth Copeland, Tony Palmer, Rick Warren and others and we examine how history is repeating itself and how all of this fits into the present truth concerning Bible prophecy and relates to the three angels messages of Revelation 14. There is a worship issue coming to a head and we need to have an understanding as to all the details concerning these issues. (2 Pet 1:19) As well as how the final events of Bible prophecy are wrapping up and how we can help others see the light of how quickly these things are coming to pass. No Man Might Buy or Sell Series
Rick Warren; Senior Pastor of Saddleback Church speaking.
We have far more in common than what divides us, when you talk about Pentecostals, Charismatic’s, evangelicals, fundamentalists, Catholics, the Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterians, and on and on.
Well: They would all say we believe in the Trinity!
I recently discussed an event leading up to October 31st 2017 which marks the 500th anniversary of Martin Luther’s posting of his 95 theses to the door of the castle Church in Wittenberg.
October 24th Kenneth Copeland came out expressing that it was Satan who inspired these protesters.
For 500 years; what were we called?
What is a protest? Strife!
Hey; we haven’t been known for the way that we love one another, we’ve been known for our church fights; I mean you’ve gotta know that.
But that was the big one; and the longer it went, the more strength that devil gained.
These are wicked spirits in the heavens; it got into governments, I mean hey this thing is huge, just huge.
David Barron: I also talked about the joint declaration on justification, and
mentioned that the Union was based on the worship of the Trinity.
Kenneth Copeland: Now I want to read you this; this is just one of the articles, you can get it online; look it up and read it free. In faith we together hold the conviction that justification (or the new birth) is the work of the triune God.
David Barron: I have also documented in previous videos how that this division they are calling a wound.
David Barron: Which fulfils the prophecy concerning the deadly wound in Revelation 13.
Luther nailed his theses to the Wittenberg Church five hundred years ago; a theses exposing many false teachings of the Catholic Church concerning issues such as purgatory, praying to saints, praying to objects, and many other things that the Catholic Church is yet to reform of.
On a website called Wittenberg2017.us we are told that they are working to bring healing and unity; healing of the deadly wound.
We read on the website that when seeking unity it can be tempting to start with the issues of theology, practice, culture, language, tradition, Authority, and the like, which are undoubtedly important, but the wounds in the body of Christ remain unhealed until we address the historical, and present realities of our contempt, our anger, and even our murder of one another.
They say that theology needs to be left out when trying to bring unity, however they do have a page called core beliefs, implying that they are not completely anti-theology; and on this page there is something very important mentioned, in fact, the entire page is dedicated to this one belief.
We read the following quote:
“Our hope for Christian unity is rooted in the love of the Trinity”. The entire page talks about unity based on the Trinity, for instance quote again “each person of the Trinity relates to the others in harmony, submission, honor, agape love.” They write further “divisions among Christians are antithetical to Trinitarian love”, and we also read that “The nature of the Trinity is a mystery beyond our comprehension, but we’re invited to contemplate this mystery, and relate to each person of the Godhead. In order to meditate on the triune god, we must think in terms of the characteristics of personhood”, and then it says, “God is three persons”.
Now let’s just stop and contemplate what this is saying; and what the Bible says, as I mentioned earlier there is a call to God’s people at the end of time, and that call is found in Revelation 14.
When distinguishing between true and false worship, we read again in revelation 14:7
“saying with a loud voice, fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship Him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.” Revelation 14:7
Let me stop there for a moment, when you think of Him, how many people are you thinking of?
If I said worship them!
How many people would you say I was thinking of?
Then you’d know that I was speaking of more than one person; notice that the verse does not say worship them, verse four of the same chapter talks about God and the lamb, so when you fear God, you give glory to God, it is clearly distinguishing between God, and Christ, as distinct individuals, and personalities.
Now an individual is singular, in fact we’re told that we will come to worship God and the lamb at the side of a river containing living water.
Jesus talks about this in John chapter 4 about what it means to worship Him; He talks to a woman about giving her living water, and as we read in revelation 14:7, God is not three persons, God is the father alone.
In John 4:22, and 23 it says.
“Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshipers shall worship the Father in Spirit and in truth: for the father seeketh such to worship Him.”
Who’s the Him in this verse; Now isn’t that interesting?
Jesus said that this woman did not know what she was worshipping, God was a mystery to her; it sounds familiar to something we just read on that website.
Now again remember what they said that the nature of the Trinity is a mystery beyond our comprehension; but we are invited to contemplate this mystery, very similar to the woman at the well.
They know not what they worship, God is a mystery to them, but we know who we worship. Instead of God being a mystery to us, we have been given a revelation and knowledge of Him, we’re told in the Bible that we know him.
In Ephesians 1:17 it tells us.
“That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him.” Ephesians 1:17
We know who we worship, our God is the Father of Jesus Christ, the Bible never once uses the term God to refer to three persons, let me repeat, not once in Scripture is the term G-O-D, that’s God, ever used to refer to three persons.
Now someone might be thinking right now; what about Matthew 28:19, or first John 5:7, where the Father Son and spirit are mentioned?
Well in those verses the term God is not used, and one of those verses says these three are one, but it doesn’t say these three are one God, it’s a very important point to understand, we must not add to the scripture in order to teach that God is three-persons.
Someone might be thinking of creation where we read in Genesis 1:26 that God said.
“let us make man in our image, after our likeness”. Genesis 1:26
We need to be careful with scriptures like these, some people think that the term ‘God’, is used for plurality in this verse; but let me read another scripture that clarifies as to whether or not the term God is referring to a singular person, or three persons.
“And to make all men see what is the Fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ.” Ephesians 3:9
So God the Father, created all things by Jesus Christ; therefore God the Father said to Christ, “let us make man in our image” and therefore the term God in Genesis 1:26 is referring to the Father alone.
The term ‘God’, is singular in that verse as well, in fact when God created all things by Jesus Christ we can read more of this in 1st Corinthians 8:6 where it says.
“But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by Him.” 1 Corinthians 8:6
Again the term ‘God’, refers to the Father alone here, and He made man in his own image by our Lord Jesus Christ. He created all things by Jesus Christ, and so God comes to us when we’re told in 1st Timothy 2:5:
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus”. 1 Timothy 2:5
So God might be a mystery to many, and the world may not know who He is, some may be ignorantly worshipping an unknown God, and to this ignorance God can sometimes wink at, but as Paul said in first Corinthians 8:4, we know that there is but one God.
“We know …That there is none other God but one” 1 Corinthians 8:4
Verse 6 he tells us we have but one God the Father, then but finally in verse seven he says.
“Howbeit there is not in every man this knowledge:” 1 Corinthians 8:7
So not everyone knows who the true God is; the Father.
In other words, to many people God is a mystery;
We read in ‘Handbook for Today’s Catholic’ page 11 that
“The mystery of the Trinity is the central doctrine of the Catholic Church. Upon it are based all the teachings of the church.”
This is a pretty serious doctrine to them, certainly they have yet to have that knowledge since God is a mystery to them, and all other doctrine is based on this point.
In his Sunday Angelus address during the Feast of the Holy Trinity, Pope Francis spoke of God’s selfless love we are called to bring into our communities.
When Christ rose from the dead, he commissioned his disciples to baptize in the name of the trinity, the father the son and the holy spirit. Christ’s mission did not stop with his disciples, but rather continues in every age of the church: Pope Francis told the crowd.
He said the trinity is the source of our origin, as well as the final goal of our lives.
David Barron: This is a central doctrine of their faith, from the ‘Catholic News Agency’ we read the following.
It seems that Trinity is a very large part of the ecumenical Alliance of churches, the World Council of Churches is a worldwide fellowship of churches seeking unity, and on their page the basis for the WCC we read that it is.
“a fellowship of churches which confess the Lord Jesus Christ as God and Savior according to scriptures, and therefore seek to fulfill together their common calling to the glory of the one God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit.”
Your God give glory to him; but are they glorifying the true God?
The basis of unity has to do with believing that God is three persons, they say that concerning becoming members of the World Council of Churches, the trinity is implicit on it.
Pope Benedict said the ultimate goal was to unite all men into confessing the triune God.
Media Narration: The church’s Catholic from its first moment, its universality is not the fruit of the subsequent inclusion of different communities. The Pope said this at the mass of the solemnity of Pentecost celebrated this morning.
From the first instant in fact, the Holy Spirit created us as the Church of all people, it embraces the whole world, transcends all boundaries of race, class, and nation, beats down all barriers and unites men in the confession of the triune God.
Recently Catholics and Protestants have come to recognize each other’s baptism, quoting from an article in ‘The Huffington Post’, we read.
“Currently, the Protestant churches recognize Roman Catholic baptisms, but the Catholic church does not always recognize theirs. The mutual agreement on baptisms, a key Sacrament in the churches, has been discussed between denominational leadership for seven years and hinges in part on invoking trinity of the ‘father son and holy spirit’ during the baptism.”
That’s the hinge to recognizing that they are all part of the same family, invoking trinity during baptism; the Bible says in Ecclesiastes 1 verse 9 that.
“The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the Sun.”
In other words history will merely repeat itself, we’re also told in Revelation 14 and verse 8 that.
“Babylon is fallen, is fallen”
How does she fall? By her fornication with the kings of the earth, in other words; ‘Church and State,’ ‘a woman and a beast,’ some of which I’ve documented in videos such as ‘A New Economic Order.’
Now how is history repeating? By the end of the 4th century the Trinitarians had power over the Roman church hierarchy, some of the Germanic tribes in the Roman Empire such as the Osthrogoths did not accept the Trinitarian view, now in 496 AD the Trinity was invoked in the baptism of Clovis King of France, who not only adopted Catholicism as well as a doctrine of the Trinity, but through a series of military conquests uprooted three tribes of the Roman Empire.
In 538AD, the third of these non-trinitarian believing tribes called the Ostrogoths, were defeated and destroyed by the papacy using the kings of the earth to uproot and enforce its law, now had complete control of the Roman Empire.
This law, which was written in 533 was fully enacted across the entire empire after 538, and the law read thus, it’s called.
“The code of our Lord the most sacred emperor Justinian. Concerning the most exalted trinity and the Catholic faith and providing that no one shall dare to publicly oppose them.”
In other words, it was a law of the land that people were not allowed to publicly say they did not accept the trinity.
This was the spirit behind this, the spirit that destroyed three tribes in the Roman Empire completely obliterated them, the spirit behind the trinity. We read further in this document that.
“Moreover, he who is an adherent of the Nicene Faith, and a true believer in the Catholic religion, should be understood to be one who believes that Almighty God and Christ, the Son of God, are one person, God of God, light of light; and let no one, by rejection, dishonor the Holy Spirit, whom we expect, and have received from the supreme parent of all things, in whom the sentiment of a pure and undefiled faith flourishes, as well as the belief in the undivided substance of a Holy Trinity.”
That is the Justinian code; but what follows when the church gets complete control over the state? Persecution! We read more of this code, it says.
“Let those who do not accept those doctrines cease to apply the name of true religion to their fraudulent belief; and let them be branded with their open crimes, and, having been removed from the threshold of all churches, be utterly excluded from them, as we forbid all heretics to hold unlawful assemblies within cities. If, however, any seditious outbreak should be attempted, we order them to be driven outside of the walls of the city, with relentless violence.”
Now this code was addressed to all the Emperor’s across the Empire, it was the law of the land, belief in the Trinity was implicit. Imperial Rome giving power to the papacy, the Dragon had given power to the Beast and it continued for 1260 years, and after over 50 million martyrs were killed, the wound of division was fully made by the sword of the state in 1798 when General Berthier captured the Pope to put an end of this suffering.
Pope Francis: with these open wounds, which affect so many of our brothers and sisters, demands that we confront every form of polarization which would divide it into these two camps.
David Barron: We read from an abridgment of Christian doctrine of 1649.
Question what is Sunday or the Lord’s Day in general?
Answer: It is a day dedicated by the Apostles to the honor of the Most Holy Trinity.
(An Abridgement of the Christian Doctrine) of 1649
And just who offered Sunday? The man of sin, the papacy who thought to change God’s holy day from Sabbath to Sunday.
“Thus the observance of Sunday by the Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the (Catholic) Church.
(Louis Gaston Segur, Plain Talk About the Protestantism of To-Day )
And they admit to this change in many places, and they are given honour by the churches of today by their adhering to worship of the God of Sunday.
In 2014 when Tony Palmer met with Kenneth Copeland in an effort to secure unity between the evangelicals and the Catholic Church, we can be careful to note that this basis of unity was on the doctrine of the Trinity.
Tony Palmer told us that he was the Bishop of the order of the arc community.
Tony Palmer: Hello; I’m Tony Palmer, I’m the abbot bishop of the order of the arc community.
David Barron: Take a look at the symbol used on their logo, it is called the triquetra, it is used to represent the trinity, or the triune God. Tony Palmer was used as a bridge to unify these groups.
Tony Palmer: Pope Francis and I have made covenant together, to work together for the visible unity of Christians, he asked me, and consecrated me to be a bridge for the promotion of Christian unity.
David Barron: Pope Francis asked Palmer to be a bridge between the Pope and evangelicals like Kenneth Copeland. The point of unity most important of them was the trinitarian doctrine, we’re told in the Catholic catechism that the
“faith of all Christians rests on the trinity.”
What’s more interesting is that many within witchcraft and spiritualism today use this triquetra symbol as well, why is that?
This information is essential knowledge for those who desire to give the three angels message warning contained in Revelation 14.
“…Fear God, and give glory to Him; for the hour of His judgment is come: And worship Him…”
Because there is a counterfeit three entity message which includes the devil and his angels in Revelation 16, and the basis of their unity seems to be the unbiblical doctrine of the Trinity, the god of Sunday.
“I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the Beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are spirits of Devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the Kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.”
we need the discernment to stand in this great war that is taking place, we need to understand our Bibles so that we can see the snares that the devil is laid out, in 1st John 1 verse 3 we read.
“that which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.”
And a call to have fellowship with the father and son is a call unto the threefold Antichrist system of Babylon into the true worship of God.
Setting up the altars just as Abraham did, just as Elijah did, and making the same statement by not bowing at their altars. Revelation 18:4 says.
“I heard another voice from heaven, saying, come out of her, my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, and that you receive not of her plagues.”
Jesus, when speaking to His Father in John 17:3 said this.
“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”
It’s eternal life to know who God is; as well as His Son Jesus. Further on in this
chapter Jesus talked about true unity, and he said.
“And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:”
Real unity is based on the word verse 17 of the same chapter tells us.
“Sanctify them through thy word, thy word is truth.”
And if we are honest with ourselves, and listen carefully we will definitely see that true unity is not based on the trinity, but we will see that instead the threefold union prophesied of in Revelation 16 is based on a three-fold union of God, a trinity, and that trinity is not in the bible.